[ECB-list] ecb-activate fails with wrong-type-argument,

[Nikolaus Rath]

Hello,

Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!

I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
*Messages*:

| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the layout setup of ECB. (error-type: wrong-type-argument, error-data: (window-live-p #<window 10>))

..and no ECB window is set up.

I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.

Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?

Thanks,
Nikolaus

[Alex Ott]

Hi

which version are you using? Can you try the following one:
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the
(window-live-p #<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?
Thanks,
Nikolaus
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[Nikolaus Rath]

Hi,

Ok, I'm officially totally confused. After I temporarily tested the ecb
version from github, my original ecb version is now apparently working
just fine (there was no connection to removing ~/.emacs, it works just
fine with the original .emacs as well).

Could the new ecb have rewritten some other file in $HOME that may have
caused issues for the old ecb?

Best,
Nikolaus

Hi Alex,
I'm using 2.40+cvs20110608-3. I just tried the one from github, and it
works nicely. Thanks!
I also noticed, however, that it works with my old version if I delete
my ~/.emacs.
Is there an easy way to figure out what setting is causing the problem?
I'd rather stay with my distributions ecb package instead of installing
and updating manually...
Best,
Nikolaus

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the
(window-live-p #<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?

[Alex Ott]

Hi

I don't remember that were any issues caused by particular file...

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hi,
Ok, I'm officially totally confused. After I temporarily tested the ecb
version from github, my original ecb version is now apparently working
just fine (there was no connection to removing ~/.emacs, it works just
fine with the original .emacs as well).
Could the new ecb have rewritten some other file in $HOME that may have
caused issues for the old ecb?
Best,
Nikolaus

Hi Alex,
I'm using 2.40+cvs20110608-3. I just tried the one from github, and it
works nicely. Thanks!
I also noticed, however, that it works with my old version if I delete
my ~/.emacs.
Is there an easy way to figure out what setting is causing the problem?
I'd rather stay with my distributions ecb package instead of installing
and updating manually...
Best,
Nikolaus

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the
(window-live-p #<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?

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[Nikolaus Rath]

Hi Alex,

I'm using 2.40+cvs20110608-3. I just tried the one from github, and it
works nicely. Thanks!

I also noticed, however, that it works with my old version if I delete
my ~/.emacs.

Is there an easy way to figure out what setting is causing the problem?
I'd rather stay with my distributions ecb package instead of installing
and updating manually...

Best,
Nikolaus

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the
(window-live-p #<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?
Thanks,
Nikolaus
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[Ryan Ware]

Folks,

You may want to try the git repo I have at https://github.com/ware/ecb.
I¹ve taken the time to get this working with 24.3. I¹ve been working with
Klaus and will be taking over maintainership of ecb. I will be more than
happy to take contributions or feature requests from folks in the ecb
community.

I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on if they
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to a Github
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.

Ryan

From: Alex Ott <***@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM
To: <ecb-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [ECB-list] ecb-activate fails with wrong-type-argument,

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the layout
setup of ECB. (error-type: wrong-type-argument, error-data: (window-live-p
#<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?
Thanks,
Nikolaus
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[John Yates]

Post by Ryan Ware
will be taking over maintainership of ecb.

Great news!

Post by Ryan Ware
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to a Github

site

Do please move the repository to github.

Out of curiosity... IIRC Klaus' implementation made heavy use of advising
many functions. Since the time of that original implementation I believe
that Martin Rudalics has made significant improvement to emacs' windowing
mechanics, specifically with ECB-like UIs in mind. Do you foresee evolving
the implementation to use those new facilities?

/john

[Alex Ott]

HI Ryan

please, merge the changes from my repo - I made many changes since April,
and also included changes from other people... My repo now is used for ECB
on MELPA...

Post by Ryan Ware
Folks,
You may want to try the git repo I have at https://github.com/ware/ecb.
I’ve taken the time to get this working with 24.3. I’ve been working with
Klaus and will be taking over maintainership of ecb. I will be more than
happy to take contributions or feature requests from folks in the ecb
community.
I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on if they
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to a Github
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.
Ryan
Date: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ECB-list] ecb-activate fails with wrong-type-argument,
Hi
https://github.com/alexott/ecb ?

Post by Nikolaus Rath
Hello,
Thanks for working on ECB, it's a great tool!
I have a bit of a problem activating ECB on an Ubuntu 13.04 system
though. When I do M-x ecb-activate, I'm getting the following in
| All requirements for ECB 2.40 fulfilled - Enjoy it!
| The ECB is now deactivated.
| ecb-clean-up-after-activation-failure: ECB 2.40: Errors during the
(window-live-p #<window 10>))
..and no ECB window is set up.
I'm using Emacs 23.4.1.
Does anyone have an idea what might cause this problem?
Thanks,
Nikolaus
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[Alex Ott]

Hi

if we'll move to Github, then it would be nice to register separate
organisation - it will be one location as primary source of code, and it
would be easier to pass control to other peoples if main maintainer will
decide that he/she has no time anymore...


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Christian Hilberg <

Hi there,
...just two cents from one happy ECB-user - not an ECB-dev, but a dev

Post by Alex Ott
HI Ryan
please, merge the changes from my repo - I made many changes since April,
and also included changes from other people... My repo now is used for

ECB

Post by Alex Ott
on MELPA...

That should be just one more good reason for dropping CVS in favour
of Git. No work on ECB should be lost, which is just easier to handle
with Git than it is with CVS.

Post by Alex Ott
[...]

Post by Ryan Ware
I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on if

they

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to a

Github

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.

Given the fact that SourceForge is no longer the organization it used
to be, and given that moving Git repos from here to there is cheap,
I'm all in for an Alternative to SF (caution: that's just my personal
preference and as said I'm no ECB-dev, so formally I don't have a voice
here =).
(Bye)^2,
Christian
--
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Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48
D-57072 Siegen
http://www.kernelconcepts.de/

[Przemysław Wojnowski]

Hi.

I merged changes from Ryan's repository into Alex Ott's and sent pull
request to him. It was easier to do this way, because Ryan's contains
less commits and in that direction there were less conflicts. After the
pull request is merged Ryan can fork Alex's repo and make an official
for ECB. Is it ok for you guys?

BTW is there some compatibility policy for XEmacs?

Cheers,
Przemek

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
if we'll move to Github, then it would be nice to register separate
organisation - it will be one location as primary source of code, and it
would be easier to pass control to other peoples if main maintainer will
decide that he/she has no time anymore...
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Christian Hilberg
Hi there,
...just two cents from one happy ECB-user - not an ECB-dev, but a dev

Post by Alex Ott
HI Ryan
please, merge the changes from my repo - I made many changes since

April,

Post by Alex Ott
and also included changes from other people... My repo now is used

for ECB

Post by Alex Ott
on MELPA...

That should be just one more good reason for dropping CVS in favour
of Git. No work on ECB should be lost, which is just easier to handle
with Git than it is with CVS.

Post by Alex Ott
[...]

Post by Ryan Ware
I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on

if they

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to

a Github

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.

Given the fact that SourceForge is no longer the organization it used
to be, and given that moving Git repos from here to there is cheap,
I'm all in for an Alternative to SF (caution: that's just my personal
preference and as said I'm no ECB-dev, so formally I don't have a voice
here =).
(Bye)^2,
Christian
--
kernel concepts GmbH Tel: [phone]
<tel:%2B49-271-771091-11>
Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48
D-57072 Siegen
http://www.kernelconcepts.de/
--
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[Alex Ott]

Hi

Thank you for pull request - I've merged it to my repo...

Regarding the XEmacs - this is an interesting question - I don't know what
is the current state of XEmacs, but if I remember correctly, CEDET folks
don't take it into account...



On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Przemysław Wojnowski

Post by Przemysław Wojnowski
Hi.
I merged changes from Ryan's repository into Alex Ott's and sent pull
request to him. It was easier to do this way, because Ryan's contains
less commits and in that direction there were less conflicts. After the
pull request is merged Ryan can fork Alex's repo and make an official
for ECB. Is it ok for you guys?
BTW is there some compatibility policy for XEmacs?
Cheers,
Przemek

Post by Alex Ott
Hi
if we'll move to Github, then it would be nice to register separate
organisation - it will be one location as primary source of code, and it
would be easier to pass control to other peoples if main maintainer will
decide that he/she has no time anymore...
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Christian Hilberg
Hi there,
...just two cents from one happy ECB-user - not an ECB-dev, but a dev

Post by Alex Ott
HI Ryan
please, merge the changes from my repo - I made many changes since

April,

Post by Alex Ott
and also included changes from other people... My repo now is used

for ECB

Post by Alex Ott
on MELPA...

That should be just one more good reason for dropping CVS in favour
of Git. No work on ECB should be lost, which is just easier to handle
with Git than it is with CVS.

Post by Alex Ott
[...]

Post by Ryan Ware
I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on

if they

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to

a Github

Post by Alex Ott

Post by Ryan Ware
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.

Given the fact that SourceForge is no longer the organization it used
to be, and given that moving Git repos from here to there is cheap,
I'm all in for an Alternative to SF (caution: that's just my personal
preference and as said I'm no ECB-dev, so formally I don't have a

voice

Post by Alex Ott
here =).
(Bye)^2,
Christian
--
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<tel:%2B49-271-771091-11>
Sieghuetter Hauptweg 48
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--
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Twitter: alexott_en (English), alexott (Russian)
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[Christian Hilberg]

Hi there,

...just two cents from one happy ECB-user - not an ECB-dev, but a dev

Post by Alex Ott
HI Ryan
please, merge the changes from my repo - I made many changes since April,
and also included changes from other people... My repo now is used for ECB
on MELPA...

That should be just one more good reason for dropping CVS in favour
of Git. No work on ECB should be lost, which is just easier to handle
with Git than it is with CVS.

Post by Alex Ott
[...]

Post by Ryan Ware
I would also like to get some feedback from the ecb community on if they
prefer the current SourceForge Site or would consider moving to a Github
site. Regardless, I want to ensure we move to git from cvs.

Given the fact that SourceForge is no longer the organization it used
to be, and given that moving Git repos from here to there is cheap,
I'm all in for an Alternative to SF (caution: that's just my personal
preference and as said I'm no ECB-dev, so formally I don't have a voice
here =).

(Bye)^2,

Christian

[Ryan Ware]

From: "Berndl, Klaus" <***@capgemini.com>
Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM
To: John Yates <***@yates-sheets.org>, Ryan Ware <***@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "ecb-***@lists.sourceforge.net" <ecb-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: AW: [ECB-list] ecb-activate fails with wrong-type-argument,

Post by John Yates
Out of curiosity... IIRC Klaus' implementation made heavy use of advising
many functions. Since the time of that original implementation I believe that
Martin Rudalics has made significant improvement to emacs' windowing
mechanics, specifically with ECB-like UIs in mind. Do you foresee evolving
the implementation to use those new facilities?
This would be greatŠ i can not count how often I have argumented to the Emacs
maintainers that the old crude window-mechanics is the biggest problem using
Emacs as modern IDEŠ therefore I was forced to re-advice more or less all
important basic window-management functions of EmacsŠ
IMHO I have made this quite safe and well working but of course it would be
great if this can be build back and using instead native window-management of
Emacs if this allows the window-mechanics needed by ECBŠ
But one warning: probably this will be quite much effort because you will
operate at the heart of ECB ;-)

I¹m very interested in bringing in new features like this. However, I want
to make sure everyone knows that before I start diving down this rabbit hole
that I¹m going to make sure ecb work as it is in a rock solid manner with
the latest version of Emacs.

Please keep in mind that the current changes I¹ve made areŠhacks. I really
just did whatever I could to remove dependencies on deprecated functions.
In some cases the changes really don¹t make sense but do work.

Once we have that done, I want to look at building on that and bringing new
features like this one.

Ryan